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I do however agree somewhat with [[User:Ffur2007slx2_5|Ffur2007slx2_5]] that it seemed (in part) to state what was already stated in the "Description" and "Examples". However, the ''extra'' info (or at least the clarification of it) that a script's local vars would be poopy if used in the body of the action code is perfectly valid note material, and to that end, I've reworked your note. | I do however agree somewhat with [[User:Ffur2007slx2_5|Ffur2007slx2_5]] that it seemed (in part) to state what was already stated in the "Description" and "Examples". However, the ''extra'' info (or at least the clarification of it) that a script's local vars would be poopy if used in the body of the action code is perfectly valid note material, and to that end, I've reworked your note. | ||
I'm sorry if that feels a bit crappy, like I just pissed on your fire, but | I'm sorry if that feels a bit crappy, like I just pissed on your fire, but {{Link|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ownership_of_articles|I mean no disrespect by it}}. | ||
I'm genuinely grateful for your effort in adding the note, and hope you continue to help build this documentation. -- [[User:Fred Gandt|Fred Gandt]] <span style="font-size:80%;vertical-align:3px;line-height:0px;">([[User talk:Fred Gandt|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fred Gandt|contribs]])</span> 02:09, 20 June 2014 (CEST) | I'm genuinely grateful for your effort in adding the note, and hope you continue to help build this documentation. -- [[User:Fred Gandt|Fred Gandt]] <span style="font-size:80%;vertical-align:3px;line-height:0px;">([[User talk:Fred Gandt|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fred Gandt|contribs]])</span> 02:09, 20 June 2014 (CEST) | ||
:Hello, | |||
:I'm new to ArmA-Scripting and it really took me a while to figure that out although I have read the description. So I think this comment is useful to everyone who has just started scripting and is not quite used to the "complicated" description of the commands. And in my opinion the BIS-wiki should be helpful for everyone and not just for the experienced scripter. | |||
:And I want to thank [[User:Fred Gandt|Fred Gandt]] for editing my note (I think it's now better structured). <br>Greets [[User:Krzmbrzl00|Krzmbrzl00]] | |||
::I '''completely''' agree Krzmbrzl00! | |||
::Documentation is of the greatest value to those who are learning the subject, and often the simple quirks of a language, which experts forget aren't obvious, are the most important parts to learn. | |||
::Over the years, I've spent many hours and even days frustratedly muttering rude things at my computer, due to something not working when the documentation says it should - only to find that some tiny detail, deemed ''obvious'' by the ''experts'' had been omitted >.< | |||
::Keep it up :-) -- [[User:Fred Gandt|Fred Gandt]] <span style="font-size:80%;vertical-align:3px;line-height:0px;">([[User talk:Fred Gandt|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fred Gandt|contribs]])</span> 16:42, 20 June 2014 (CEST) | |||
== addAction == | |||
I understand now your intention, but what I do not understand why you only did it to 3 of the params then? Anyway, when addAction was edited last time we did not have enough params in template to do it properly this is why it looks like this. The page could be reformatted to proper format now. If you want to redo the page in proper format instead of just adding colons, do it [[User:Killzone_Kid|Killzone_Kid]] ([[User talk:Killzone_Kid|talk]]) 22:55, 14 April 2015 (CEST) | |||
== Your changes to syntax == | |||
First of all I appreciate you going through commands and adding missing params and correcting spelling. However I do object when you remove params from syntax. This is regarding you removing arrays of params. I understand you are trying to change wiki and make it more consistent for whatever you are doing, but let me remind you that you are not the only user that uses wiki and removing something may affect others like you, so please consider this before you make your next edit. By convention, every array is also a param and is listed as such in 99% of the commands on biki. If you are not sure about the change, you can always start a discussion first or ask Dwarden to add you to BIKI skype channel. I have corrected some of your edits. [[User:Killzone_Kid|Killzone_Kid]] ([[User talk:Killzone_Kid|talk]]) 00:43, 24 April 2015 (CEST) | |||
Hey thank you for your feedback. In the future I won't remove parameter anymore or at least not unless I have discussed that with a few other people. | |||
Are the other changes I did okay? Because I don't only want to customise the wiki to my personal use (although that is still my first intention) I'm also doing this to help keeping the wiki on one level/style (in which I not always success as you have seen) so if the other changes are inappropriate please feel free to mention that as well. | |||
Greetings [[Krzmbrzl00]] | |||
::Would be best if you ask Dwarden to get added to BIKI channel [[User:Killzone_Kid|Killzone_Kid]] ([[User talk:Killzone_Kid|talk]]) 12:08, 24 April 2015 (CEST) | |||
== abbreviations == | |||
Personally I think they are unnecessary, the more explicit param names are the better [[User:Killzone_Kid|Killzone_Kid]] ([[User talk:Killzone_Kid|talk]]) 12:55, 30 April 2015 (CEST) | |||
:well in my opinion they are not because with the abbreviations you have the possibility to mark params as optional without loosing :readability of the syntax. The same goes with alternative params, e.g. when the entry can be a String or an array... | |||
:Apart from that this is really something the majority of the wiki entrys use, so why have exceptions? | |||
:Krzmbrzl00 16:30, 30.04.2015 (CEST) | |||
::Edit: Okay I just noticed taht I first misunderstood you...I thought you were talking about listing the parameters externally and that ::it would be better to write them directly into snytax | |||
::But now I get it and I will keep this in mind :D | |||
:::I agree with KK. Parameters should have full names as it helps explain what their purpose is. Also, if you intend on making major formatting changes to the BIKI, can you please, PLEASE discuss them before hand? Join the BIKI skype here (bottom entry): http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?131825-Skype-groups-amp-other-contact-groups --[[User:Benargee|Benargee]] ([[User talk:Benargee|talk]]) 06:40, 1 May 2015 (CEST) | |||
::::I tried to join the BIKI skype group, but I failed in doing so (I clicked on the link which wassupposed to add me to the group (I opened it with skype) but I wasn't added to any group nor did change anything else). What have I done wrong? | |||
::::And could you please tell me what you don't like about my (major?) formatting changes? | |||
::::[[User:Krzmbrzl00|Krzmbrzl00]] 15:56, 2.5.2015 (CEST) | |||
:::::I had issues joining at first. I got in on the second or third try. The problem I have is KK has been undoing some of your work, and I agree with him mostly. Also, if you want to automatically make a signature at the end of your post, type <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, which ends up like this [[User:Benargee|Benargee]] ([[User talk:Benargee|talk]]) 03:57, 3 May 2015 (CEST) | |||
== Private edit == | |||
If the format of the syntax of the use of [[private]] as keyword breaks your automatic parsing, you should consider adding exception. The clarity for the BIKI user is more important in this case. [[User:Killzone_Kid|Killzone_Kid]] ([[User talk:Killzone_Kid|talk]]) 21:25, 23 May 2016 (CEST) |
Latest revision as of 13:48, 12 March 2024
Notes on addAction
Hi Krzmbrzl00, as addAction, a standalone EH, it is obviously treated as a scope where outside private variables cannot be passed inside directly. Your note has already been mentioned in the body itself, so could you please modify your note and make this page tidier? Thanks – ffur2007slx2_5
Hi Krzmbrzl00.
Thanks for adding the note. I'm not sure if I already knew that or not :-/
Seeing it written down in black and white certainly helps me remember though, so that's good :-)
I do however agree somewhat with Ffur2007slx2_5 that it seemed (in part) to state what was already stated in the "Description" and "Examples". However, the extra info (or at least the clarification of it) that a script's local vars would be poopy if used in the body of the action code is perfectly valid note material, and to that end, I've reworked your note.
I'm sorry if that feels a bit crappy, like I just pissed on your fire, but I mean no disrespect by it.
I'm genuinely grateful for your effort in adding the note, and hope you continue to help build this documentation. -- Fred Gandt (talk|contribs) 02:09, 20 June 2014 (CEST)
- Hello,
- I'm new to ArmA-Scripting and it really took me a while to figure that out although I have read the description. So I think this comment is useful to everyone who has just started scripting and is not quite used to the "complicated" description of the commands. And in my opinion the BIS-wiki should be helpful for everyone and not just for the experienced scripter.
- And I want to thank Fred Gandt for editing my note (I think it's now better structured).
Greets Krzmbrzl00
- I completely agree Krzmbrzl00!
- Documentation is of the greatest value to those who are learning the subject, and often the simple quirks of a language, which experts forget aren't obvious, are the most important parts to learn.
- Over the years, I've spent many hours and even days frustratedly muttering rude things at my computer, due to something not working when the documentation says it should - only to find that some tiny detail, deemed obvious by the experts had been omitted >.<
- Keep it up :-) -- Fred Gandt (talk|contribs) 16:42, 20 June 2014 (CEST)
addAction
I understand now your intention, but what I do not understand why you only did it to 3 of the params then? Anyway, when addAction was edited last time we did not have enough params in template to do it properly this is why it looks like this. The page could be reformatted to proper format now. If you want to redo the page in proper format instead of just adding colons, do it Killzone_Kid (talk) 22:55, 14 April 2015 (CEST)
Your changes to syntax
First of all I appreciate you going through commands and adding missing params and correcting spelling. However I do object when you remove params from syntax. This is regarding you removing arrays of params. I understand you are trying to change wiki and make it more consistent for whatever you are doing, but let me remind you that you are not the only user that uses wiki and removing something may affect others like you, so please consider this before you make your next edit. By convention, every array is also a param and is listed as such in 99% of the commands on biki. If you are not sure about the change, you can always start a discussion first or ask Dwarden to add you to BIKI skype channel. I have corrected some of your edits. Killzone_Kid (talk) 00:43, 24 April 2015 (CEST)
Hey thank you for your feedback. In the future I won't remove parameter anymore or at least not unless I have discussed that with a few other people. Are the other changes I did okay? Because I don't only want to customise the wiki to my personal use (although that is still my first intention) I'm also doing this to help keeping the wiki on one level/style (in which I not always success as you have seen) so if the other changes are inappropriate please feel free to mention that as well. Greetings Krzmbrzl00
- Would be best if you ask Dwarden to get added to BIKI channel Killzone_Kid (talk) 12:08, 24 April 2015 (CEST)
abbreviations
Personally I think they are unnecessary, the more explicit param names are the better Killzone_Kid (talk) 12:55, 30 April 2015 (CEST)
- well in my opinion they are not because with the abbreviations you have the possibility to mark params as optional without loosing :readability of the syntax. The same goes with alternative params, e.g. when the entry can be a String or an array...
- Apart from that this is really something the majority of the wiki entrys use, so why have exceptions?
- Krzmbrzl00 16:30, 30.04.2015 (CEST)
- Edit: Okay I just noticed taht I first misunderstood you...I thought you were talking about listing the parameters externally and that ::it would be better to write them directly into snytax
- But now I get it and I will keep this in mind :D
- I agree with KK. Parameters should have full names as it helps explain what their purpose is. Also, if you intend on making major formatting changes to the BIKI, can you please, PLEASE discuss them before hand? Join the BIKI skype here (bottom entry): http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?131825-Skype-groups-amp-other-contact-groups --Benargee (talk) 06:40, 1 May 2015 (CEST)
- I tried to join the BIKI skype group, but I failed in doing so (I clicked on the link which wassupposed to add me to the group (I opened it with skype) but I wasn't added to any group nor did change anything else). What have I done wrong?
- And could you please tell me what you don't like about my (major?) formatting changes?
- Krzmbrzl00 15:56, 2.5.2015 (CEST)
- I had issues joining at first. I got in on the second or third try. The problem I have is KK has been undoing some of your work, and I agree with him mostly. Also, if you want to automatically make a signature at the end of your post, type ~~~~, which ends up like this Benargee (talk) 03:57, 3 May 2015 (CEST)
- I agree with KK. Parameters should have full names as it helps explain what their purpose is. Also, if you intend on making major formatting changes to the BIKI, can you please, PLEASE discuss them before hand? Join the BIKI skype here (bottom entry): http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?131825-Skype-groups-amp-other-contact-groups --Benargee (talk) 06:40, 1 May 2015 (CEST)
Private edit
If the format of the syntax of the use of private as keyword breaks your automatic parsing, you should consider adding exception. The clarity for the BIKI user is more important in this case. Killzone_Kid (talk) 21:25, 23 May 2016 (CEST)