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As with any good public internet place, rules and guidelines help maintain order and sanity among readers and editors. The following rules and guidelines are designed so that people will return here to contribute and find quality information. Respecting these rules will help in providing a positive experience for both editors and readers alike.


== Introduction ==
{{Feature|informative|User behaviour is regulated by general BI [[Bohemia Interactive Community:Rules|Rules]].}}


As with any good public forum, rules and guidelines help maintain order and sanity among readers and editors. The following rules and guidelines are designed so that people will return here to contribute and find quality information. Respecting these rules will help in providing a positive experience for both editors and readers alike.


== Content Guidelines ==


== Rules of Conduct ==
The '''Rules of Conduct''' regulate the interaction between Wiki members. These are in place to ensure that the Wiki remains a civilised place where people can share information freely, without being harassed or abused.
=== No Flaming/Flame-baiting ===
Abusive comments, personal attacks and name calling are not allowed. If you find an article or discussion that is abusive or that you find offensive please report it to a [[Bohemia_Interactive_Community:Administrators | Wiki Sysop]] who will investigate. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaming Flaming] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flame_bait flame-baiting] articles will not be tolerated.
=== No Bigotry ===
Racist, sexist, homophobic or any other type of bigoted posts are not tolerated on this Wiki. Such offences will result in an immediate and permanent block.
=== No duplicate Accounts ===
Having several accounts is strictly forbidden. If you wish to change your name for any reason you can do so in your user options.
=== Follow the instructions of the Wiki Sysops ===
When a [[Bohemia_Interactive_Community:Administrators | Wiki Sysop]] asks you to stop doing something, please follow their instructions.
== Content Guidelines ==
The '''content guidelines''' are important to ensure that content, names and pictures remain consistent.  This makes reading the articles much easier, and it also makes the job of the editors easier. Content guidelines ensure that articles and topics do not violate the '''[[Meta:General_disclaimer|Rules of Conduct]]''', or violate the law.
The '''content guidelines''' are important to ensure that content, names and pictures remain consistent.  This makes reading the articles much easier, and it also makes the job of the editors easier. Content guidelines ensure that articles and topics do not violate the '''[[Meta:General_disclaimer|Rules of Conduct]]''', or violate the law.


=== No discussion about illegally obtained software ===
=== Text ===


All discussions about warez, piracy or leaked software are strictly forbidden. Such articles will immediately be deleted. This includes request for cracks, links to cracks or sites that host cracks, as well as requests for CD keys/serials.
When writing an article:
* Do your research beforehand. Read all the relevant documentation, posts and articles on the web, this very wiki, test the situations your are describing, and only then start your article.<!--
--> If you are still in the early stages of editing, formatting, etc. keep the article in your '''sandbox''' until it is finished.<!--
--> If you are unsure about certain subjects that are brought up by your article, don't guess. Likewise, it is good to be honest and say the data is incomplete.<!--
--> It is better to leave out subjects about which you are unsure rather than to post hear-say or false information. This is a Wiki and other users will, over time, complete the missing parts.
* '''Preview''' the changes before saving them. Saving every single revision during editing will clutter the "History" and "Recent Changes" pages, and will make it harder for others to track the actual changes.
* Aim for the best spelling ("u r"/"you're" &rarr; "you are", "its" &rarr; "its", "it's" &rarr; "it is").


Discussions about copy protection or copying, backing-up, hacking, cracking or reverse engineering of any of Bohemia Interactive's Products will not be tolerated and such discussions will be deleted.
If there are some minor points in your article that you think someone else might be able to answer, ask on the {{Link|https://discord.com/invite/arma|Arma Platform Discord}}'s {{hl|#community_wiki}} channel
 
* '''Only post verified information on the wiki''' - this should go without saying.
'''Any''' breach of these rules will result in the poster no longer having access to the Bohemia Interactive Wiki.
* Do not '''ask''' questions (about a topic, a future game, anything else).
 
* Talk pages and Discussion pages are not to be used anymore and are blocked for modification.
=== No Spam ===
* If in doubt, use {{Link|https://discord.com/invite/arma|Arma Platform Discord}}'s {{hl|#community_wiki}} channel or the or the {{Link|https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/|forums}}
 
We define spam as an article or post that has no real worth, is irrelevant, useless and offers nothing to a discussion. Spam is not limited to text - posting an image as a means of spamming, or as a link to a spam site, will also result in deletion. With spam being hard to define, that decision is left to the moderators' discretion. If in doubt ask yourself "does my reply add any constructive insight to the discussion"? If not, then this Wiki would not be the right place to post your comment.  


=== Images ===
=== Images ===


No posting of pictures containing porn, real killings, mutilations, wounds, carnage and other disgusting/explicit images. This also includes links to pages that contain such images. The only accepted images for this Wiki must be related to a product of Bohemia Interactive. Keep the following guidelines in mind when uploading and posting pictures here:  
Uploaded images must not contain porn, real killings, mutilations, wounds, carnage and other explicit images. This also includes links to pages that contain such images.
 
The only accepted images for this Wiki must be related to a {{Name|bi}} product. Keep the following guidelines in mind when uploading and posting pictures here:  
* Do not use hotlinked images in the Wiki. Use the [[Special:Upload | Upload file]] function instead to upload images to this Wiki.
* You must own the image rights or its copyright must allow its upload on this wiki
* Use a meaningful name when uploading a picture. (e.g. Instead of calling your picture "cool shots from OFP" call it "OFP:Helicopter Insertion in Malden"). Use a short game name (OFP, VBS, ArmA) in the image title to indicate which game it was taken in. Do not rely on others to rename your pictures.
* Do not use hotlinked images in the Wiki. Use the [[Special:Upload|Upload File]] function instead to upload images to this Wiki.
* When appropriate use an image thumbnail on the article page (such as on the [[Operation_Flashpoint:_Easter_Eggs|OFP Easter Eggs]] page).  
* Use the [[Special:Upload#Naming Rules|Naming Rules]]
* When appropriate use an image thumbnail on the article page (such as on the [[Operation Flashpoint: Easter Eggs|OFP Easter Eggs]] page).  
* Avoid using a text link to point to an image. Display the image as thumbnail or sized appropriately for the article.
* Avoid using a text link to point to an image. Display the image as thumbnail or sized appropriately for the article.


=== No Developer Questions ===


The developers are busy working hard on Armed Assault. They do not have the time to respond to each and every question. If you have questions (technical or otherwise), use the [http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi| BI Forums].
== Format Guidelines ==


* <u>Do not</u> post questions directly/indirectly to the developers using the Wiki.
These guidelines are here to ensure that articles are presented in a clear, understandable and consistent style.
* <u>Do not</u> make suggestions for the developers in the Wiki.  


=== Discussion Pages ===
=== Categorise your Article ===


Every article comes with a discussion page.
Organisation is essential for making it easy to find information on this Wiki. Be sure to categorise your article once you have completed the writing.
The purpose of those pages is to discuss '''the article'''. It is not the place to discuss technical issues or post opinions about the ''subject'' of the article. (e.g. An article may describe the use of [[Triggers]]. It would be perfectly appropriate to use the discussion page to talk about whether certain statements in the article may be incorrect or unclear. It would '''not''' be appropriate to ask how to use triggers to blow up a tank in your mission.)
'''Always''' use categories for a page. Unless you categorise your article properly people will not be able to find it.


The place to ask technical questions, or to discuss general issues, is the [http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi| BI Forum].
Clearly distinguish content specific to a particular project.
If the content you are creating is about {{ofp}} then it should be categorised in the appropriate {{GameCategory|ofp|link=y}} category, not everything from {{ofp}} is applicable to later titles).


=== Writing an Article ===
* Use {{Template|GameCategory}} whenever possible!


When writing an article do your research beforehand. Read all the relevant documentation, posts and articles on the web, test the situations your are describing, and only then start your article. If you are still in the early stages of editing, formatting, etc. keep the article in your sandbox until it is finished.
=== Create/Edit Sections ===


If you are unsure about certain subjects that are brought up by your article, don't guess! (or at least put a big disclaimer next to it.) It is better leave out subjects you're unsure about, than to post hear-say or false information. This is a Wiki and other users will, over time, complete the missing parts.
When starting a new subject on an article or discussion page define a section name to describe the sub-topic (Example: {{hl|<nowiki>== Create/edit Sections ==</nowiki>}}).<br>
When editing only a section of a page, use the section edit button (the <nowiki>[edit]</nowiki> link on the right side) to open only that particular part of the page.
This will prevent conflicts if two people are editing the same page.


If there are some minor points in your article that you think someone else might be able to answer, use the <nowiki>{{AnswerMe}}</nowiki> template, so that others can find open questions.
=== External Links ===


=== Mod Pages ===
* To link an external page, use the {{Template|Link}} template (e.g {{hl|<nowiki>{{Link|https://www.google.com|My Link}}</nowiki>}} – this will allow to track dead links faster in the future.
* Do not link to websites that have temporary addresses (e.g IPs).


You are welcome to announce your mods on this Wiki under the respective categories ([[:Category:Operation Flashpoint: Community Mod Pages|OFP]] or [[:Category:ArmA: Addon Groups|ArmA]]), but these should be limited to an ''overview'' of your mod, rather than a full-scale documentation.<br>
=== Changes Summary ===
Each modder (or mod group) is allowed to have a one page description, with up to 8 images embedded. If images for this page are uploaded to this Wiki, their individual size should not exceed 100KB. (Images that are hosted elsewhere, and only linked to, do not fall under this limitation.)


=== Quality External Links ===
When making only small edits check the "This is a minor edit" box at the bottom.
This makes the version history easier to read. Generally 90% of the edits will be minor edits for boldness, typos, etc.
By default all edits are marked as "major". This can be changed to "minor" in your preferences setting.


Use valid external links. Avoid linking to websites that don't have a permanent address.
Be sure to include a summary text of edits you have made. This makes it easy for other people to see at a glance what the edit was about. Even short text statements like "''fixed typo''" will be sufficient in most cases.


=== Page Titles ===
{| class="wikitable float-right"
! Do
! Don't
|-
|
* {{ofp}}: Actions List
* {{ofpe}}
* {{arma3}}: Weapons
|
* List of Actions OFP
* OFP:Elite
* A3:Weapons
|}


== Format Guidelines ==
When creating new categories or articles, consider the naming convention to be used.<br>
<nowiki>[[Operation Flashpoint: Elite]] is more acceptable than [[OFP:Elite]]. The new category or article should almost always be [[Game Title: something]] such as [[Operation Flashpoint: Addons]]</nowiki>.


These guidelines are here to ensure that articles are presented in a clear, understandable and consistent style.
The namespace must be considered:
* if the game has a namespace, use it: {{hl|[[DayZ:Unusual Process Exit|<nowiki>DayZ:Unusual Process Exit</nowiki>]]}}
* otherwise, use the game name with a space: {{hl|[[Arma 3: Unusual Process Exit|<nowiki>Arma 3: Unusual Process Exit</nowiki>]]}}


=== Categorise your Article ===
{{Feature|informative|Use '''Namespaces''' whenever possible!}}
 
Organisation is essential for making it easy to find information on this Wiki. Be sure to categorise your article once you have completed the writing.
 
Always use categories for the content. Unless you categorise your article properly people won't be able to find it.
 
Clearly distinguish content specific to a particular project. If the content you are creating is about Operation Flashpoint then it should be categorised in the appropriate OFP category. (e.g. not everything for OFP is applicable to ArmA, etc.)
 
=== Create/edit Sections ===
 
When starting a new subject on an article or discussion page define a section name to describe the sub-topic. (Example: <nowiki>==Create/edit Sections==</nowiki>)
 
When editing only a section of a page, use the section edit button (the <nowiki>[edit]</nowiki> link on the right side) to open only that particular part of the page. This will prevent conflicts if two people are editing the same page.
 
=== Summarise your Changes ===
 
When making only small edits check the "This is a minor edit" box at the bottom. This makes the version history easier to read. Generally 90% of the edits will be minor edits for boldness, typos,  etc. By default all edits are markes as "major". This can be changed to "minor" in your preferences setting.
 
Be sure to include a summary text of edits you have made. This makes it easy for other people to see at a glance what the edit was about. Even short text statements like "''fixed typo''" will be sufficient in most cases.


=== Use Full Names for Titles ===
The name choice should always be clear and concise for the reader, and easy for the editor to link back to.
Keep in mind that you can use spaces in the name of the article (e.g. <nowiki>[[Easter Eggs]] would be better than [[EasterEggs]]</nowiki>).


When creating new categories or articles, consider the naming convention you are going to use.
=== Content ===


<nowiki>[[Operation Flashpoint: Elite]] is more acceptable than [[OFP:Elite]]. The new category or article should almost always be [[Game Title: something]] such as [[Operation Flashpoint: Addons]].</nowiki>
==== Common Names ====
The [[Template:Name|Name Template]] provides the expected names for various product and company names.<br>
Some shortcut templates exist for simplicity (e.g {{hl|<nowiki>{{arma3}}</nowiki>}} instead of {{hl|<nowiki>{{Name|arma3}}</nowiki>}}) and are listed in the table below.


<nowiki>Your choice should always be clear and concise for the reader, and easy for the editor to link back to. Keep in mind that you can use spaces in the name of the article (e.g. [[Armed Assault: Easter Eggs]] would be better than [[Armed Assault:EasterEggs]])</nowiki>
{| class="wikitable"
! Long Names || Short Names || Template
|-
| {{Name|arma4}} || {{Name|arma4|short}} || [[Template:arma4]] ({{arma4}})
|-
| {{Name|armaR}} || {{Name|armaR|short}} || [[Template:armaR]] ({{armaR}})
|-
| {{Name|arma3}} || {{Name|arma3|short}} || [[Template:arma3]] ({{arma3}})
|-
| {{Name|arma2oa}} || {{Name|arma2oa|short}} || [[Template:arma2oa]] ({{arma2oa}})
|-
| {{Name|arma2}} || {{Name|arma2|short}} || [[Template:arma2]] ({{arma2}})
|-
| {{Name|arma1}} || {{Name|arma1|short}} || [[Template:arma1]] ({{arma1}})
|-
| | {{Name|bi}} || {{Name|bi|short}} ('''not''' BIS) || ''[[Template:Name|<nowiki>{{Name|bi}}</nowiki>]]'' ({{Name|bi}})
|-
| {{Name|ofp}} || {{Name|ofp|short}} || [[Template:ofp]] ({{ofp}})
|-
| {{Name|ofpr}} || {{Name|ofpr|short}} || [[Template:ofpr]] ({{ofpr}})
|-
| {{Name|ofpe}} || {{Name|ofpe|short}} || [[Template:ofpe]] ({{ofpe}})
|-
| {{Name|tkoh}} || {{Name|tkoh|short}} ('''not''' TOH) || [[Template:tkoh]] ({{tkoh}})
|-
| {{Name|tkom}} || {{Name|tkom|short}} ('''not''' TOM) || [[Template:tkom]] ({{tkom}})
|}


Refer to the [[Naming Conventions]] page for choosing the appropriate name when writing articles.
=== Categories ===


=== Do not use All-Caps ===
{{Feature|informative|Use the [[Template:GameCategory|GameCategory]] template whenever possible.}}


Typing in all capitals is equivalent to yelling and is not permitted. It is also difficult to read articles featuring all-caps.
Templates can be used in the category name, e.g <syntaxhighlight lang="html" inline>[[Category:{{arma3}}: Functions]]</syntaxhighlight> (result: [[:Category:{{arma3}}: Functions]])


<!-- not really interesting for the normal user
==== Sorting Keys ====
=== Templates ===
When defining a category for an article you should include a search key in that definition:
To be concise, easily used and remembered, templates should follow these guidelines:
[[<nowiki/>Category: CategoryName'''|Sort Key''']]
*They should include an example of usage.
If not defined, the automatically created table of contents will sort everything alphabetically, sometimes unsuccessfully.
*They should be linked to [[:Category:Templates]] so they are easy to find. Use the <nowiki> <noinclude>[[Category:Templates]] </noinclude> </nowiki>tags around the category to prevent all articles using this template to be categorised automatically.
-->
=== Use the Preview Button ===


When writing an article preview the changes before saving them. Saving every single revision during editing will clutter the "History" and "Recent Changes" pages, and will make it harder for others to track the actual changes.
One can use the following:
<syntaxhighlight lang="html" inline>[[Category:{{arma3}}|{{uc:{{PAGENAME}}}}]]</syntaxhighlight>


=== Write in English ===
The {{hl|uc:}} wiki template will '''u'''pper'''c'''ase the given value, which is <syntaxhighlight lang="html+handlebars" inline>{{PAGENAME}}</syntaxhighlight>.
{{Feature|informative|See the interest of defining a custom key on the [[:Category:Arma 3: Functions|{{arma3}} Functions page]]: if custom keys were not defined in the {{Template|RV}} template, every function would be sorted under '''B''', for '''B'''IS_fnc/'''B'''IN_fnc.}}


This Wiki's official language is English. Articles in other languages are not currently accepted. Use the proper spelling of words and phrases, instead of abbreviations and messenging style codes (e.g. don't use "m8" instead of "mate", or "u r" instead of "you are"). Articles with good spelling and proper grammar will encourage further contributions of quality content. Proper spelling of an article name will also make it easier for other authors to link to your article.
=== Deletion Guidelines ===


=== Talk/Discussion Pages ===
Deletion is only possible by a wiki admin. Pages should not be created without thinking beforehand, therefore pages are usually moved rather than deleted.


* Sign any comments you've made with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. This adds a tag, indicating your name and submission time. Three tildes will leave just your name.
A page can be marked for deletion with <nowiki>{{Wiki|delete}}</nowiki>:
* Use colons(:) for indentation, so that your submission is easily distinguished from the preceeding one. Check how many colons the post you are reacting to used, and use one more for your own submission.
* A page containing pointless/test/BI-unrelated/law-breaking content is prone to be deleted.
* All links to that page must be removed before doing so.




[[Category:BI Wiki Policies]]
[[Category:Bohemia Interactive Community:Policies]]

Latest revision as of 11:21, 27 February 2023

As with any good public internet place, rules and guidelines help maintain order and sanity among readers and editors. The following rules and guidelines are designed so that people will return here to contribute and find quality information. Respecting these rules will help in providing a positive experience for both editors and readers alike.

User behaviour is regulated by general BI Rules.


Content Guidelines

The content guidelines are important to ensure that content, names and pictures remain consistent. This makes reading the articles much easier, and it also makes the job of the editors easier. Content guidelines ensure that articles and topics do not violate the Rules of Conduct, or violate the law.

Text

When writing an article:

  • Do your research beforehand. Read all the relevant documentation, posts and articles on the web, this very wiki, test the situations your are describing, and only then start your article. If you are still in the early stages of editing, formatting, etc. keep the article in your sandbox until it is finished. If you are unsure about certain subjects that are brought up by your article, don't guess. Likewise, it is good to be honest and say the data is incomplete. It is better to leave out subjects about which you are unsure rather than to post hear-say or false information. This is a Wiki and other users will, over time, complete the missing parts.
  • Preview the changes before saving them. Saving every single revision during editing will clutter the "History" and "Recent Changes" pages, and will make it harder for others to track the actual changes.
  • Aim for the best spelling ("u r"/"you're" → "you are", "its" → "its", "it's" → "it is").

If there are some minor points in your article that you think someone else might be able to answer, ask on the Arma Platform Discord's #community_wiki channel

  • Only post verified information on the wiki - this should go without saying.
  • Do not ask questions (about a topic, a future game, anything else).
  • Talk pages and Discussion pages are not to be used anymore and are blocked for modification.
  • If in doubt, use Arma Platform Discord's #community_wiki channel or the or the forums

Images

Uploaded images must not contain porn, real killings, mutilations, wounds, carnage and other explicit images. This also includes links to pages that contain such images. The only accepted images for this Wiki must be related to a Bohemia Interactive product. Keep the following guidelines in mind when uploading and posting pictures here:

  • You must own the image rights or its copyright must allow its upload on this wiki
  • Do not use hotlinked images in the Wiki. Use the Upload File function instead to upload images to this Wiki.
  • Use the Naming Rules
  • When appropriate use an image thumbnail on the article page (such as on the OFP Easter Eggs page).
  • Avoid using a text link to point to an image. Display the image as thumbnail or sized appropriately for the article.


Format Guidelines

These guidelines are here to ensure that articles are presented in a clear, understandable and consistent style.

Categorise your Article

Organisation is essential for making it easy to find information on this Wiki. Be sure to categorise your article once you have completed the writing. Always use categories for a page. Unless you categorise your article properly people will not be able to find it.

Clearly distinguish content specific to a particular project. If the content you are creating is about Operation Flashpoint then it should be categorised in the appropriate Operation Flashpoint category, not everything from Operation Flashpoint is applicable to later titles).

Create/Edit Sections

When starting a new subject on an article or discussion page define a section name to describe the sub-topic (Example: == Create/edit Sections ==).
When editing only a section of a page, use the section edit button (the [edit] link on the right side) to open only that particular part of the page. This will prevent conflicts if two people are editing the same page.

External Links

  • To link an external page, use the {{Link}} template (e.g {{Link|https://www.google.com|My Link}} – this will allow to track dead links faster in the future.
  • Do not link to websites that have temporary addresses (e.g IPs).

Changes Summary

When making only small edits check the "This is a minor edit" box at the bottom. This makes the version history easier to read. Generally 90% of the edits will be minor edits for boldness, typos, etc. By default all edits are marked as "major". This can be changed to "minor" in your preferences setting.

Be sure to include a summary text of edits you have made. This makes it easy for other people to see at a glance what the edit was about. Even short text statements like "fixed typo" will be sufficient in most cases.

Page Titles

Do Don't
  • Operation Flashpoint: Actions List
  • Operation Flashpoint: Elite
  • Arma 3: Weapons
  • List of Actions OFP
  • OFP:Elite
  • A3:Weapons

When creating new categories or articles, consider the naming convention to be used.
[[Operation Flashpoint: Elite]] is more acceptable than [[OFP:Elite]]. The new category or article should almost always be [[Game Title: something]] such as [[Operation Flashpoint: Addons]].

The namespace must be considered:

Use Namespaces whenever possible!

The name choice should always be clear and concise for the reader, and easy for the editor to link back to. Keep in mind that you can use spaces in the name of the article (e.g. [[Easter Eggs]] would be better than [[EasterEggs]]).

Content

Common Names

The Name Template provides the expected names for various product and company names.
Some shortcut templates exist for simplicity (e.g {{arma3}} instead of {{Name|arma3}}) and are listed in the table below.

Long Names Short Names Template
Arma 4 Arma 4 Template:arma4 (Arma 4)
Arma Reforger Reforger Template:armaR (Arma Reforger)
Arma 3 Arma 3 Template:arma3 (Arma 3)
Arma 2: Operation Arrowhead Arma 2:OA Template:arma2oa (Arma 2: Operation Arrowhead)
Arma 2 Arma 2 Template:arma2 (Arma 2)
Armed Assault ArmA Template:arma1 (Armed Assault)
Bohemia Interactive BI (not BIS) {{Name|bi}} (Bohemia Interactive)
Operation Flashpoint OFP Template:ofp (Operation Flashpoint)
Operation Flashpoint: Resistance OFP:R Template:ofpr (Operation Flashpoint: Resistance)
Operation Flashpoint: Elite OFP:E Template:ofpe (Operation Flashpoint: Elite)
Take On Helicopters TKOH (not TOH) Template:tkoh (Take On Helicopters)
Take On Mars TKOM (not TOM) Template:tkom (Take On Mars)

Categories

Use the GameCategory template whenever possible.

Templates can be used in the category name, e.g [[Category:{{arma3}}: Functions]] (result: Category:Arma 3: Functions)

Sorting Keys

When defining a category for an article you should include a search key in that definition:

[[Category: CategoryName|Sort Key]]

If not defined, the automatically created table of contents will sort everything alphabetically, sometimes unsuccessfully.

One can use the following: [[Category:{{arma3}}|{{uc:{{PAGENAME}}}}]]

The uc: wiki template will uppercase the given value, which is {{PAGENAME}}.

See the interest of defining a custom key on the Arma 3 Functions page: if custom keys were not defined in the {{RV}} template, every function would be sorted under B, for BIS_fnc/BIN_fnc.

Deletion Guidelines

Deletion is only possible by a wiki admin. Pages should not be created without thinking beforehand, therefore pages are usually moved rather than deleted.

A page can be marked for deletion with {{Wiki|delete}}:

  • A page containing pointless/test/BI-unrelated/law-breaking content is prone to be deleted.
  • All links to that page must be removed before doing so.